Ford Excursion :: Brake Felt Soft - Metallic Smell?


Apr 18, 2016

It is around 90 today in Seattle, and I was on the last leg from Downtown to my house. (hour plus drive with traffic). I did stop for about 30 min to run a quick errand, but then I jump back in the Ex and headed down the local hill, when all of the sudden my brakes no longer felt "grippy." The peddle was solid, but the brakes felt soft/slippery. I nursed it the last mile home, without incident. I did notice a metallic smell, but could not figure what wheel it could be coming from. All four brakes were hot enough that a quick splash from the hose immediately boiled off...

All fluids are full.

These are brand new discs, calipers and pads, all less that a month old and greased with the manufacture (Power Stop) provided grease.

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Second pic of the gouge in the bottom of it where it's hitting.

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