GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clunking Sound When The Clutch Is Released - Dual Mass Flywheel Go Bad?


Nov 9, 2008

My car makes a clunking sound when the clutch is released, it's not the throw out bearing or the pressure plate, as they have been replaced twice already???? Have dual mass flywheel go bad, what were the symptoms?????

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Santa Fe (CM - 2007-12) :: Loud Clatter From The Flywheel (dual Mass)

I know I am stating the obvious but a clutch job on a 2010 Santa Fe CM (diesel) takes a lot of time.

My brides Santa Fe has over 280,000 km (175000miles) and has had the loud clatter from the flywheel (dual mass) for quite some time and more recently the pedal started to remain on the floor and the 'fix' of bleeding and flushing new fluid through the system stopped being effective. When a leak from the slave developed I was forced to accept that I would have to either fix or sell the vehicle.

By far the biggest obstacle I found was the non availability of a workshop manual to guide the task as it would no doubt speed the process massively for a number of reasons, some of which are listed below:

* Having a structured step by step procedure to follow, showing hidden bolt placement, torque settings, specific tools required and little tricks.

* By allowing one to assess the extent of the task and determine if one has the time/skillset/tools to deal with it would be great.

* Taking the guesswork away and thereby preventing unneeded parts removal.

* Having actual parts numbers to confirm parts suppliers supply correct parts.

Finally, of note is the way in which vehicle manufacturers assemble cars on the production line by using subframe cradles etc places massive extra difficulty with a task such as this as the clearances for tools, hands, arms and body are very very tight indeed.

I don't intend to outline a step by step process as others are far more qualified to do so, however I will point out some tricky things I have learned during the experience which may assist others. I will list them in no apparent order and will add others when I think of them.

1. The flywheel bolts are Torx T60.
2. The flywheel bolt access aperture had blocked access to the head of two of the bolts that required the use of a die grinder to remove some flywheel material. Not sure as to why this occurred or how.
3. Initially, I intended to remove the gearbox from the bell housing and remove both separately to make it easier but after removing the available bolts and prying the two apart (unsuccessfully) I removed the unit as a whole. Once on the bench I saw there were 4 bolts going into the gearbox from within the bell housing. So this unnecessary attempt needed me to split the two on the bench, scrape and clean old gasket material away and rejoin them together with new gasket silastic.
4. I supported the gearbox and bell housing from the top with an engine hoist and lowered it to be wrestled out.
5. I only dropped one side of the cradle but would remove it entirely if doing it again.

Probably enough for now i guess

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clutch Sticking When Released And Gears Only Engage When Push Hard Shift Knob

Been having trouble shifting into any gears on these chilly mornings in VA now... The clutch has been sticking on its way out when I release it and the gears don't want to engage unless I really push hard on the shift knob.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Loud Clunking Noise When Release The Clutch

Car was great this weekend, then on saturday, every time I shift my car clunks right near the tranny when I release the clutch. Its a loud noise. Clutch was done around 2500 miles ago. South Bend stg 1 with a LWFW (I know, wish I stayed with a DM). And if I drive in first and second and come off the gas without shifting, it also knocks once really loud. It isn't a back fire or anything it almost feels like the dogbone mount is bad? Also, over 4000 rpm my car sounds deeper sounding than before.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clunking Sound Coming From Under / Around The Feet

For a couple of weeks, when i put my car in reverse and also sometimes in first, I hear a weird clunking sound coming from under/around my feet when i release the clutch and start taking off....is the clutch gone or going soon???

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clunking Sound Coming From Driver Side Front End

We purchased her GLI a couple of months ago, as is, knowing the issues it had and whatnot. We talked the dealer down so much that he refused a warranty.

This pesky *clunk* sound coming from the driver side front-end. Usually on bumps, it sounds like a suspension deal... We took it into a shop, they "re-torqued" the suspension, and did the alignment. It was good for about a week, then it came back. Also, there's a creaking sound when turning, my guess is CV boots? Axles?

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Passat (B5) :: Clunking / Vibrating And Clutch Sinking When Fully Released

2000 v6 manual wagon with +-90k. Brutally lowered with KW coils. First thing I noticed was the clutch pedal slowly getting lower and lower to the floor when fully released. Besides the pitch getting shorter, it seems to work fine, no slipping at all. It now sits a couple inches closer to the floor than the other pedals.

I am also getting a couple other things that may or may not relate to the clutch. It started out as a vibration under acceleration, getting worse over about a month or so. Now it is also starting to clunk when pressing or releasing the gas while the clutch is released. It also clunks when moving from a stop, although I can regulate this with the clutch.

I am thinking it is a motor mount causing the clunking and vibrating, and maybe the engines movement has caused the clutch to come out of alignment?? I am unsure where to start, which mount to check, etc.

I also just had my oil pan replaced after slamming the ground recently. Although the problems were starting before this, I am sure this wasn't exactly good for the motor mounts....

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Boost Build Up But Then Released

So I have a 20th AE with 113k Miles.

All of engine is stock, but when I FLOOR it from about 3rd-4th or sometimes 2nd-3rd the car will build up boost but release it without me letting go off pedal.

So, basically as I am driving the car sort of builds up, drops, builds up, drops without my doing anything but drive.

It will rev to about 3k stop for a second, rev to 4k stop for a split second, rev to 5k and so on... Not sure what this is or why it could be happening...

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Passat (B7) :: Beep Sound After Clutch Has Been Released

It happened again this morning while putting the tranny into reverse and backing into my slanted/graded driveway about 60'. After the clutch has been released all of the way, a BEEP...BEEP...BEEP. aural sound comes from either the engine bay or under the dash. It's not happening when driving out fresh in the morning. It only occurred when I was backing up and on a grade. First, I had thought that it was my clutch telling me - Or, maybe it was the Hill Assist actuator in conflict when the car is actually moving. No smoke or burning coming from underneath nor any idiot lights flashing on the Dash.

I left a message for the Service Manager at the VW Dealer that I purchased the car from. I haven't heard back yet if he has ever heard of or witnessed this freak of nature event. Today was the second time in a week that this "Anomaly" has occurred.

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Golf VI R :: Noisy Dual Mass Fly Wheel?

I have had this basically since i got my car. I brought it up with VW and the best explanation they could offer was the DMF. When i set off, more so at low rpm and under load (like reversing out of a spot and continuing forward) i get a knock from the drivetrain. Its not super loud, but it is certainly noticeable. Everyone i have asked has said it just sounds like the Dual Mass Flywheel making noise, but should i be at all worried? I made sure i have it on record with VW that i noticed the noise and they said its no big deal.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: 2006 GLI - Clunking Noises From Under The Car

I have a 2006 GLI 6speed manual, and am having a weird noise when doing certain things. The best way to describe the noise is perhaps clunking? kinda like if you put a ball in a metal container and then tilt it, and the noise that the ball makes when it hits the side of the container is what i hear. It sounds like its coming from the underside of the car and doesn't really happen unless I accelerate quickly, turn at a little bit of a faster rate, or slow down alot.

At first i thought it was infact a ball or something rolling around but I haven't been able to find anything of that nature in my car. It sounds like it could be coming from the passenger side near the glove box or under the center console. After getting info about a clunking noise and how it can be fixed by tightening a few bolts on the underside of the car. As i am unsure if they are experiencing the same clunking noise I think i hear, i decided to ask this on a new forum. I think its either loose bolts, or perhaps something with the shocks or struts.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clunking Noise In The Front End

well what are the chances that all in one week.. I would get my front end hit in the same spot that i just fixed.

get a crack in my windshield.

get a flat tire.

Have the tab that holds the passenger sun visor in place break off.

Have a new "clunking" noise in the front end.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clicking / Clunking Noise While Decelerating

I started noticing the noise about a week ago, When i seem to let of the gas or even once in a wail push on the gas Hear a "CLICK" noise, this is not when pressing the brakes at all only when letting off pedal?

I am thinking it could be transmission, but have read it could be a few thing, From the brake pads to CV joint to trow out bearing, Axles, Lightened flywheel, Motor mounts, etc. But i am unsure where to start, Its and O2M 6spd tranny in my 20th, with lsd installed, lightened flywheel, VFmotormounts...

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clunking When Just Start Out In 1st Gear Or Reverse

I just had my transmission fluid changed today and I have some clunking when I just start out in 1st or reverse. They told me my mounts are weak but not bad.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clunking Noises Around Front Left Wheel Area?

My 20th just recently started making clunking noises around the front left wheel area. It sounds like when I let off the gas it sounds like something is shifting forward... I don't think it is the engine mounts I'm wondering if its something with the suspension. The suspension is the stock 20th suspension.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clutch Pedal Would Stick At 3/4 Of The Way Up

I recently got the GTI 1.8L 337 with 64,000 on it. It had been sitting, with daily start-ups, for about 8 months until the ALT was replaced. I've been driving it for a month with no problems until last week. At first I noticed the clutch pedal would pause on the way up for a split second then tap the bottom of my shoe. I thought maybe it needed adjustment but nothing serious. A few days ago the pedal would stick at 3/4 of the way up, and stay there most of the time unless I raised it with my foot, till the car warmed up a bit. Yesterday and today the pedal started to stick 1/4 of the way up, unless raised with my foot, at the morning start-up and will only come up 3/4 when warm. It also wont go into reverse at initial start-up until it gets really warmed up, shifting into other gears is fine. I've had no problems or real sounds shifting into any other gears, though out of 1st has been a little jumpy.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clutch Won't Return - Could Not Put It Into Gear

Today I went to start my car and let it warm up and everything worked fine and it started regularly but when I went to go drive the car and put the clutch in the pedal didn't return and I could not put it into gear, need to identify the problem.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: 2004 - Clutch Won't Go Into Any Gear

My wife was driving home and was exiting the freeway, downshifted and then no response from the clutch or gearbox. It would move left to right but not go into any gear with the car on. No real pressure in the clutch pedal either. With the car off you are able to find all the gears but when you start the car in gear with the clutch down it just jumps forward and dies. No smoke or burning smells either way and the pedal does come up by itself. Pushed the car into the driveway and its goin to the shop tomorrow morning.

With the search button so far: master/ slave cylinder, full clutch problem, air in brake/clutch lines, shifter linkage bracket

I don't think it's the slave cylinder as the pedal is NOT stuck to the floor, but I am not handy with cars, only motorcycles. First thing I checked was the linkage bracket, which seemed to be fine and as I stated, I was able to get in gear while car was off. Brake fluid was almost full but i know that doesnt rule out air in the lines.

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clutch Pedal Went Soft?

We were headed home the clutch pedal went soft... Ok, I thought it's either the clutch master or slave. I get it home and replace the master and after bleeding I had good pedal feel.

Great I thought, I got lucky and it was only the master. Drive it around for a bit and get on the highway and just as I was about to downshift the pedal went flat to the floor again.

Well after pumping the pedal until it had good feel again I got it home and bleed it a couple more times just to make sure I got all the air out. Drove it again. Same thing, after a little while the pedal gets soft again.

Now before I go and replace the slave is it possible I have a faulty master? Having issues after replacing the master?

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clutch Grinding When Go Into Second Gear

So I am pretty sure its my clutch that is the problem, here's what happens: When I go into second gear, it doesn't really grind.. but its tough to get it into gear and its only with second gear. sometimes it will go right in and others i have to double clutch. when i double clutch it goes in smooth every time. now I don't think it would be syncros because I am pretty sure if it was that it would do it every time I shift? It only does it while its cold or hasn't been drove in awhile.. but after i drive it around its fine so I am pretty sure its the clutch. Second thing, what is an upgraded clutch that is good for these 6 speed transmissions?

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GTI 337/20th Anniversary :: Clutch Is Starting To Slip

Noticed recently that my clutch is starting to slip. It only seems to happen when I'm cruising in 6th and floor it. When the boost spikes, the revs will shoot up ~750 rpm and then settle back down before the car starts to pull. It is chipped Unitronic Stage 2 with some other bolt-ons.

What I'm wondering is, should I just drive it like this until it really starts to go, or should I replace it now? And what are my options for a new clutch? I don't want to big turbo this car, so the most it could get is a few more bolt-ons. I'd like a stock feeling clutch.

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