Golf IV / Jetta IV :: Temp Reading Shows 260 + But Car Won't Overheat


Jun 27, 2016

I've got a 2001 Volkswagen Jetta 1.8T Wolfsburg Edition.

Recently the temp gauge sits at 260* as soon as the car starts, but it's not actually overheating. Car runs/drives fine and will do so for many, many miles. Even in stop and go traffic. Was told the thermostat was replaced, but that didn't fix the issue although it doesn't sound like a thermostat issue since the car isn't actually overheating. Coolant is topped off as well.

I am thinking it's a bad sensor. Where is it located on this car?

Car is a friends and she said she took it to a shop to have the coolant checked and they were also the ones who did the thermostat.

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I make a couple of errands and as I'm stopped at a pharmacy drive-thru the temp-gauge is "floating." Driving home on the highway it reaches "overheating", turning the light on (again, car is not behaving in an overheating manner. A/C still cold, running heat doesn't ease gauge, no vapor from engine compartment.) When I pull in my parking spot the A/C and the car starts to "stall" some and NOW the check-engine light comes on. I shut the car off and I see vapors coming from under the hood.

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