Ford Excursion :: Steering Loose While Cruising Then Feels Tight When Straighten Out After A Turn


Jan 5, 2013

The steering on my Ex isn't working like it should. At times it feels loose when cruising then feels tight when straightening back out after a turn... the wander is really bad...

My PS fluid is also turning into a muddy brown goo every 5k... I changed the PS pump this summer with a supposedly good used one...

What should I be looking at/checking for?

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