Ford Excursion :: V10 - Hanging Idle / High RPMs


Jul 22, 2013

Not really sure if the V-10 is supposed to be this way or not. I've had quite a few of the 4.6 and 5.4, both the 2v and 3v variant. Never had them do it.

Basically, my V-10 doesn't idle down easily. I can do a neutral rev and it will hang out from 1,000 to 1,500 rpm for maybe 2-3 seconds, then drop to normal idle revs.

While in gear and slowing to a stop, it feels like the motor is fighting the brakes and I have to press harder to stop. It also comes off the transmission when going 35-40 mph and letting off the gas. Causes a weird lurch if I have to get back on the gas.

Not dangerous or anything of that sort, but very very annoying. And I feel it's costing me some MPG's since I drive 99% city and have lots of stops. Probably 1-2 MPG at max. Back in my 2v Mustang days I remember some of the guys were modifying the 4.6 2v IAC because of similar complaints. I'm trying to dig up that mod, but it's been a few years.

I plan on cleaning the IAC this week when I get the time

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