Golf IV R32 :: Brake Pedal Feel Deterioration


May 22, 2012

So after my first track day i bleed my brakes and they felt great for about 3 days, but then the pedal feel started to deteriorate back to its old crappy feel where nothing happens until its depressed to the same depth as the gas pedal...

In other words, I have about a solid 1.5 inches of travel with nothing happening.

Fixes? Bleeding procedure? I heard we have to prime our abs pumps? yes no?

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