Lexus LS 2007+ :: LS460 Transmission Slips Between 2 And 3


Feb 8, 2016

I purchased my first Lexus in October, a very clean 2009 ls460. In colder weather (for Tucson AZ) in the 30's to 40's I notice that the transmission slips while the car is accelerating between 2nd and third gear.

By slipping, I mean as the car shifts between 2nd and 3rd it feels like it goes into neutral for a half second, so rpms spike 500 rpm, the car stops accellerating, and then catches as the next gear is finally engaged.

It does this pretty much every day when the car has been sitting overnight on the first steady acceleration after backing out of the garage. It only does it once, subsequent shifts a re pretty much normal.

Every once in a while coming out of a parking lot after say grocery shopping, it will do it again, just once.

I dropped it at the dealer and they of course could not replicate it.

I made a youtube video which shows it sort of. besides the rise in engine rpm, you feel a lurch in the acceleration as it drops down into gear.

Service records showed the trans was serviced just before I bought it.

Transmission slipping - YouTube

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