Phaeton :: Coolant Overheating Warning Comes On For About A Minute Or Two


Nov 25, 2009

On a few occasion, usually during cool weather, the engine temperature rises up to 130 C, the coolant overheating warning comes on for a few about a minute or two and then the temperature goes back to normal (90 C.)

The car has 106,000 km. I purchased it last summer from an independent use car dealer. I inquired about the car calling the previous owner. He did mentioned that the only problem he ever experience was that the car overheated on a few occasion during the winter months (cooler weather).

Could it be that the thermostat needs to be replaced?

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