Touareg :: 2004 - Harsh Downshift From 2nd To 1st Gear?
May 20, 2007
My wife's 2004 v-6 has finally come to the point of harsh downshifting between 2nd and 1st,that she finally said something to me about it and that is unusual as she has the kids and music going so she hardly ever notices anything like that. I took it to the dealer at the 60k service and demonstrated the problem to them. Well, they did some software update 01210000 and it was supposed to be fixed. Well it isn't. and of course as before it does this intermittently so after they updated and drove it for a mile they considered it fixed. BUT it still does it.... It is a real harsh clunk/downshift just as you almost stop going from 2nd to 1st ? you feel it and hear it ....
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I just bought a 2009 Hyunda Sonata, 4 cylinder limited edition with 82k miles on it about a month ago. It was maintained to the suggested maintenance schedule by Hyundai dealers prior to me owning it.
after about 2 weeks, it started having issues when slowing down. I narrowed it down to being a harsh downshift from 4th to 3rd when breaking when cold. After driving for 10 minutes it doesn't do it anymore.
My temporary fix is to manually downshift it into 3rd when I have to slow down. It seems to be that it stays in 4th too long and shifts late into 3rd, but I wouldn't think downshifting late would really matter.
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I have a 2009 2.4/auto with 32000...original owner...just noticed a weird tranny issue develop over this past cold week in NY...when coming to a slow stop the trans will harsh shift as it down shifts from 2 to 1...
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My 2004 Touareg V10 TDI drives like something's not just quite right, although hard for me to put my finger on. Essentially it feels sluggish, like it doesn't downshift to accelerate as quickly as it should, and like the automatic shifting is slightly jerky. This stuff is all even more noticeable at slower speeds and going up hill, but I think it's true even on city streets.
It's happened a few times, going up a fairly steep hill, that it seems to lose power and I can't get it over 20 or 25 mph even flooring it. Then when I turn the vehicle off and then back on, it can go more or less like normal again. Still, "normal" feels to me like something less than it used to be. I've recently changed the oil and all the filters (air, oil, fuel).
The dealer's service department says they can't find anything and the computer is not giving any error codes, but I know that it's not driving right.
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Ive got a 2006 5.4, Fx4, screw, with 90,000 miles.
Recently it shifts perfect except when it down shifts from 4th gear to 3rd gear. If i mash the pedal it is fine, its only when it just a slight acceleration and it is a easy down shift that causes the problem. What it does is almost like it wont lock into the gear, it bucks lightly but where I can feel it still. Im going 40 to 60 mph when this happens most of the time.
I am not sure if there is a sensor of something else that would be the cause this of is maybe my Transmission is just shooting craps. Also, i have a SCT tuner that i havent hooked up to the truck yet, but do you think if i plugged it in and turned up the shift firmness if it would work.
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I have registered under a pseudonym as I don't want the dealer/SM to get into any trouble. Just an update on my 3 day visit to the dealer for 6 issues. Car is a well loaded V8 (PPS II) with 3200 miles. Main issues that needed attention were.
1. A/C not working right after 2-3 stops.
A working A/C is a must in TX! I have posted before about issues with the efficiency of the A/C, and several others seem to have the same problem. Main issue is that after 2-3 stops (for instance when running errands) the A/C takes forever to cool the car down. The air coming out of the vents is just not cold, even with the settings on min temp and max fan with recirculation. Big news is that service manager told me VW are aware that there is a problem, and the are working on a fix, hopefully without a recall! So if you have noted a similar problem, we need to band together and push VW for a fix. This is a major issue for me and really stops me using the car with my 10 month old son, who just overheats in the back.
2. Humming/droning noise over 70MPH from front drivers side wheel/transmission
This was the 2nd visit and once again they claim that all is normal/within spec. This noise comes and goes depending on throttle position, but can be heard and felt when it occurs. Apparently they have referred this to the local VW rep.... we'll see.
3. Binding at low speed during turns
Transfer and stepper were OK, flashed some module or something, SM seemed a little vague, not sure if this did anything as first trip today I noticed the same thing.
4. Windshield condensation
TSB was done, has made it better but not perfect. I still get a small strip of condensation across windshield. Seems not to have affected the screen demist function, as hot air is blown onto windshield when the button is used.
5. Seatbelt recall
Done, no issues with this.
6. Harsh Gearshift
Had the transmission flashed. Much better now, and as others have reported, seems to behave more like sport mode now. More willing to kick down and hold down, 6th comes later. So items 1 & 2 are still outstanding.Other comments. Car was cleaned which was nice. Carpet by dead foot pedal was covered in grease where someone had got in car with filthy boots. SM came and personally cleaned this off. Hopefully won't notice. Mats and door plates also filthy, but I have cleaned this.
Windshield covered in greasy hand prints (dirty windshields are a bugbear of mine, being a pilot!) Was told I would get a VW loaner, but when I turned up I was trucked over to Enterprise and given (no choice) a beautiful Buick Century!! I Was not impressed and I told the SM so. Overall I had low expectations of good service and I was not disappointed. I specifically asked that the parts for the TSB's be in stock before I took the car in, but was told that the service dept were more capable than me to determine what was needed, of course when it came to it the parts that WERE needed were not in stock.
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Well - took my car into the shop today for the death lag, harsh shifting, and acceleration during braking. I've read much on this site about tranny flash and ECU flash, and was hopeful there was something available for my 2004 V8 (I just purchased it in late October, but was unsure what TSBs and campaigns had been applied before I bought it)...
In the end, dealer was able to replicate/experience the harshness problem, but was unable to come to a confident solution. My 86xxx VIN V8 Treg was not due/eligible for the much discussed tranny flash (my engine type was right, but the tranny flash was not listed for my car). In fact there were no recalls or campaigns due for my car, and there were no faults on the computer.
The dealer stated the cause as "Harsh shifting patterns". and fixed via "Reset TPS and TRANS". Essentially, I was told, let the adaptive driving feature relearn, and hopefully replace the previous harsh shifting pattern. My ride home from dealer was short, so not sure if there was any effect - but I'm not confident.
2004 V8 Silver Touareg [Nav system, Sound II, Bi-xenon, Convenience Package, Parking Assist] VIN 86xxx
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What may be causing my car to harshly shift fron 1st to 2nd and then from 2nd the 3rd. One solution some one had was to replace the:
"TPS (throttle position sensor). The other reason for hard shift is a worn Boost valve and will need to be replaced, or a faulty transmission fluid EPC (electronic pressures control valve). Both Boost valve and EPC are located in the Valve Body and can be replaced with out dropping the valve body, but have to drop the transmission pan".
I did just recently top off the tranny fluid because it was running a bit low but there is no leak....
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16 se. When driving slowly, I feel my car shift into second gear, not very smooth, to other gears, it's butter smooth. I mean it's not bad at all but little harsh for a new car. I only have 700 miles on it. Is this kinda normal !?
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I was cruising the parking lot going around 5 miles an hour and all the sudden I felt a big jolt like somebody rear ended it me. I look back and nobody was there. It was the car down shift dramatically that scared me. That was weird. I know what it feels like down shifting in S mode but it was never felt like this.
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I have 05 V8 and noticed that when I come to a complete stop the transmission is still in 2nd...then after a second or so it shifts to 1st with a slight bump.... I had an 04 V6 Touareg and never had this problem...
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Transmission (V-6) is slow on the upshift; and jerky on the downshift. Going uphill, the transmission does not want to downshift into a lower gear unless the accelerator is heavily depressed. So, 6th gear at like 45 mph uphill, then finally downshift into 4th with jerk downshift.
As car comes to a stop, right about 2 or 3 mph, the rpm's drop from idle to about 400; sometimes once sometimes twice. It feels like it's going to stall. Have had all the software updates.
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So i just noticed this issue the other day. If I downshift from 6th to 5th the car hesitates before it starts to accelerate, this only happens for 5th every other gear is fine. This only happens downshifting from 6th to 5th. What is going on?
-apr flash
-just rolled 56k
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I really do love the Phaeon and experienced a hard downshift from 3 to 2 when slowing at certain speeds. The trans is very smooth on the way up but if a let it coast down to zero while applying light brake pressure I get a hard shift from 3 to 2. It is currently at the dealer for service and they have checked everything and state I should just watch for it. They checked all the TSB's, fluids, etc. I wouldn't mind if I knew this was normal for the Phaeton.
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New truck 11000kms ago thats done medium amount of work but nothing heavy or sustained for long periods of time. I get the feeling of clutches slipping especially when truck is cold but also when normal temps. Doesnt make any weird noises or anything. I can really notice the difference in torque if in manual mode being much better, but still not perfect if i stomp on the gas pedal and go through the gears in manual mode will still slip. Also is really harsh shift if i come to a halt in 3rd manual mode with the brake pedal depressed push minus button the truck makes very loud clunk noise into gear 2 then 1. Took it to ford they couldnt find anything ? Thinking of trying another dealer.
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I have a problem with a bmw 1996 7 series transmission.When I start driving the car all gears shift fine, but when I come to a stop it won't downshift to first gear,i have to put the car in park and then in drive again and it run ok until I come to a stop again.
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Is there a way to VAG-COM a 2006 B6 to hold gears in Tiptronic mode? What I mean is, if I floor the car in 4th gear, then the car will automatically still downshift to like 2nd or third. Is there a way to keep the tranny from behaving this way?
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My wife's been complaining off and on about a clunking noise with her '06 Passat 2.0T I couldn't get it to replicate; maybe three complaints on the last 10 months? I wrote it off to the transmission, as it occasionally clunks down into gear on downshift; done this since new, maybe twice per year.
Anyway, she just got the tires rotated last week. And oil change has been at the dealer last six months.
That's why I was shocked when I was changing the front pads tonight. I removed the left wheel, and a fractured sway bar was staring me in the face, end link dangling loose.. The brake was far from fresh...lots of rust and crust on the brake.
I can't see whether it was hit, other than the brake. Everything else looks good. I'm just floored that VW dealer, and especially Discount Tire, didn't catch this during routine work.
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Six speed GTI Manual for those that dont know its a 2.0 TSI. Fifth gear grinds all day long when i downshift or upshift. They have given me a service car to drive around in, until its fixed. 25k on the OD and a 5 year mechanical warranty, i have 2 years left on the rest. Third gear doesn't go in easily, its like i miss third gear all the damn time, obviously its not right when the rpm's go above 3k.
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My 2004 V8 egg is currently at 111,000 miles and I'm starting to have problems that are really cause for concern. Since the blue book value on the Touareg is worthless and I've got it paid off, I might as well keep it until the wheels fall off of it. Anyhow, on to the problem at hand ...
When driving on the interstate at high speed somewhere around 80 - 90 mph and you push the accelerator to get that extra bit of speed out of the downshift so you can pass or just for the heck of it, the transmission starts clunking, LOUDLY, which of course causes you to let your foot off the gas. The clunking continues for about 5 - 10 seconds until the car has slowed down a bit.
I can still get the car up to speeds of around 110 mph (my wife tried it just about 15 minutes ago on our way back from Florida), but it has to be done gradually as to keep the transmission from downshifting.
Around town the car responds fine. Occasionally it will have a hard shift, but I can't find a reason or pattern to that. Fifth gear also works fine in city traffic, I've used tiptronic to keep it in 5th and I've also watched the main display change from D4 to D5 to D6 and back again without incident.
I'm too afraid to take the car up to 90 and then engage tiptronic and downshift to 5th. This transmission has had its fair share of problems. I'm on my third stepper motor, the forward transmission seal had to be replaced and then later the hydraulic pump had to be replaced. There are no noticeable fluid stains on the belly pans and there are no stains on my garage floor, so I doubt its leaking fluid. Can you even check the transmission fluid level in this thing?
Other than the transmission problem, the Touareg is behaving fairly well. (Knock on wood) It still rides nice and I've learned to put up with the little electrical anomalies that happen like the blue strobe backlight compass (it's just dancing along with the music) and the lights switching ON in full daylight (with the euro switch installed).
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Have an 01 vw beetle stuck in third unless I manually downshift it but still wont shift into overdrive.
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