Arginine And Taurine Supplements For PACs/PVCs?


Mar 9, 2011

I have a question to ask. I'm a volunteer in one of the volunteer centers, and I started working with a group of people who have PAC and PVC in the last couple of days.

It's sort of a meeting where we all sit and talk about the conditions we have (I'm the leader of the meeting). Now, some of the people there were talking about the treatments for their conditions and what is actually good to do for people with their conditions. One of them, a woman in her fifties, said that arginine and taurine supplements are good for people with PAC and PVC. Is that true?

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Heart :: PVCs And PACs Upon Exertion

Just looking for some advice on next steps here. I'm 46 (male) and have had intermittent PVC / PAC for probably 10 years. They have always been infrequent and pretty mild truthfully. Once in a while if I'm stressed, have had too much to drink, or had a big meal close to bed, I'll have a more prolonged and severe episode, usually when trying to sleep. Many of you have probably been in the same situation - rolling around in bed to try and get into a position where you can't feel the pounding and fluttering as much.

Anyways, I'm reasonably fit, not overweight, and have no other conditions (AFAIK). I usually have one cup of Half-Caf coffee in the morning and that's it. I don't drink soft drinks or have a lot of sugar or anything. I HAVE had panic attacks in the past, but have learned to control them pretty well, just through breathing exercises and getting myself to relax. Exercise had always helped too, though I'm not on a "regular" exercise program.

My father had a bad case of Afib, which was solved by an ablation. My identical twin brother has had Afib episodes as well, with a couple being severe enough that he needed to be "shocked" back into rhythm. There is some history of heart disease in my family with 3 grandparents dying (eventually) from stroke, and the other had a moderate heart attack in his 60s (but lived to 93).

From a lifestyle perspective, in my younger years up until probably 35 I was reasonably active but ate a pretty poor diet - tons of dairy, red meat, etc. Typical bad American diet. Despite this diet, I was never really overweight much (blessed with a fast metabolism), and my cholesterol readouts have always been borderline, though in recent years they've improved as I've improved my diet.

3 weeks ago I started to notice PVC and PAC whenever I would exert myself - we're talking walking up 1 flight of stairs, walking quickly to rush to a meeting, taking the dog for a walk. Yesterday a pretty strong one came on while I was carrying something heavy for a home depot return. I had a strong one while carrying it (but just one), then another small one a few minutes after I had put it down. Likewise, I usually will get one or two AFTER I have reached the top of the stairs and starting walking a little bit. I've noticed they seem to be worse if I've recently eaten a meal.

I went to see my PCP who did a resting EKG that was normal, normal BP, resting pulse 65-70 or so. You can predict the response - you're fine and they're benign. Cutout caffeine, exercise more, relax, etc. He did offer up additional tests if I wanted and so I did a 24 hour holter monitor, thyroid blood test, and stress test (just ekg and bp, no echo or thalidomide). The holter showed occasional PVC and PAC. The day I had the stress test was a "good" day - I didn't feel any PVC or PAC while I was on the treadmill (of course!) but the cardiologist did say he saw a few.

Even though I know that what the docs are telling is very likely to be true, my problem now is that I just don't FEEL right. I had gotten used to the occasional PVC and PAC and they were never a problem, even if I had 1 or two DURING exercise. Now they seem to be brought on by exertion and I just can't help but think about the cause being some underlying coronary artery condition, even though my PCP and the cardiologist tell me they're benign. Even though these seem to be brought on by exertion, my fitness level is BETTER than it's been in a while and when I do "power through" the PVC and PAC that I get when I commence exercise, I actually feel pretty good - 30 minutes on the treadmill at fast walk / incline and I'm not even breathing that hard. 6 weeks ago I hiked for 2 days at 11,000 feet, mostly going up and while it was hard, I did it and felt pretty good. I had a few PVC and PAC during that trip, but not many. It's only been the last 3 weeks or so when they happen consistently upon exertion.

I've read online that PVC/PAC CAN be brought on by exercise but I've also read that PVC/PAC with exercise can be a sign of an underlying heart condition such as coronary artery disease. At this point every time I walk up the stairs I'm afraid of what might happen and I'm afraid to do any real exercise. I would really like to have another test done to check for any sign of blockages and so on but I'm not sure what to do since the docs are telling me I'm fine and I should just live with it. I'm just concerned because of family history, lifestyle, and the fact that these come on when I exert myself (it also doesn't help my state of mind that 1 friend and 1 colleague at work are of similar age and had heart attacks recently). Anyone out there experience anything similar?

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Heart Rhythm :: PVCs / PACS? Should Be Worried?

I went to the doctor a few months ago for a routine physical and mentioned that I had been feeling an occasional (0-10 times a day) thump in my chest (which I thought to be some sort of ectopic beat after looking it up online). They did bloodwork and an EKG and said my blood pressure was a little high but the bloodwork and EKG did not show anything to be worrisome. My doctor said it could be stress related (because this was right after Christmas)  but I am still having them. She also told me that if they get worse to let her know, but they haven't got worse and I am just worried that I should be having them checked more in depth than what was done during my physical.

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Heart Rhythm :: When To Worry About PACs/PVCs?

I've been experiencing a flare-up in my ectopics recently.

My heart is healthy (I had an EKG and an echo done two months ago when my ectopics started to bother me again). I don't know if what I'm experiencing now is PACs or PVCs (none were found on my EKG) but earlier I had only PACs. I would assume that most of my ectopics are PACs.

I know that stress and anxiety is a major trigger, and what often happens is that I'm having one ectopic, I'm trying not to worry about it, then I have another one and I get a major rush of adrenaline, which makes the ectopics go wild and I'm having 5-15 a minute for a while (15-20 minutes) and suddenly they just go away.

The sensation is quite variable from event to event, sometimes I get the throat fullness sensation followed by a thump, sometimes it feels like my heart stops and then a thump, sometimes I just feel some fluttering in my chest for a second or two. I'm worrying about the latter as I fear it's a run of ectopics.

The problem is, I KNOW that premature beats are benign but still I can't stop worrying. It's like a fear of fear, because I fear that the ectopics will ruin my life.

I'm taking 100 mg Metoprolol (and some Propranolol as needed) and it takes the edge off my ectopics, but it's not a cure. Also, I'm on Zoloft for my anxiety.

Test results:
EKG: Normal sinus rhythm, 64/min, normal.
Echo: All normal.
BP: 115/75 at doctor's office.

At what point should I worry about ectopics (how many)? Is it common to have a fluttering sensation even with a single PAC or PVC? Is it normal to get those flare-ups where you feel ectopics several times a minute?

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Heart Disease :: PVCs And PACs - Syncope With Erratic Sinus Rhythm

I am Nico, I am a 26 year old male who has been suffering from an array of symptoms since I was 17 years old. I am 5ft 8" and I weigh 235 lbs ( I've gained over 60lbs in the last year and a half) I have had a Panic Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and dizziness (not vertigo) problem since 17 (nearly 8 years now). In 2009 I got into a car accident and fractured my frontal right sinus cavity and had to do a reconstructive surgery. In this accident I also got a concussion and was in shock and also unconscious for about an hour. The last few years my health has gradually been declining and my quality of life has gotten so low. I have seen a TBI specialist, a Neurologist, a Cardiac Electrophysiologist, a Psychologist, and a Psychiatrist for Psychotropic medication management

****(Since Wednesday Morning 10/7/15 I noticed whenever I am Sitting or Standing that My Heart Rate Is Super Erratic and Jumping around a lot, it goes into the 120s-140s when I stand "from a sitting 60-70 bpm" and then bounces all over the place, 40s to low 100s to 80s to 50s, etc. Also since this has started I have noticed an extreme shortness of breath made worse sitting or standing, made better by laying down on my side, my blood pressure since wednesday had also been very low for my normal average when standing, other symptoms with this are blurred vision and off balance/dizzy... I fainted for about 5 seconds friday 10/9/15 night after climbing my flight of stairs, earlier that friday morning I went to the Emergency Department to be evaluated and they said my chest xray was okay as well as my CBC and CMP blood tests.... I explained that most of my symptoms were POSTURAL and or ORTHOSTATIC but they kept me lying down till discharge and didn't let me show them, but on the monitor I was having 100s! of PVCs and PACs which is not normal for me to have that many, also the PACs were making my shortness of breath worse.... They discharged me even though I said I don't feel safe because these are new symptoms and they said well we need your room because we are busy and your cardiologist said all the Arrhythmias are from your Sinus Node so your fine and were discharging you.

. Here are the symptoms I have experienced daily or within this time frame:

*Panic Attacks
*Constant Fear/Adrenaline Rushes
*Always Tired
*No Sex Drive
*Irritable
*Easily Overstimulated (sensory Overload)
*Non-Rotational Dizziness
*Neck Pain
*Cervicogenic Dizziness
*Heart Arrhythmia (PVC's, and Sinus and or Paroxysmal Tachycardia)
*Sensitive to Sounds (Always have to wear earplugs)
*Sensitivity to Light (always wear sunglasses)
*Off balance
*Slight body tremors
*Chronic Neck and Muscle tension in Occipital and Trapezius Muscles
*Startled by normal everyday sounds (occasionally)
*Frequent muscle twitching (Eyelids, Stomach and Diaphragm, temple, legs)
*I can't climb a flight of stairs without feeling exhausted (2 years ago I used to hit the gym a lot)
*Always Feel Like I Am Dying or That I Have Some Serious Terminal Illness
*Tinnitus
*Elevated Blood Pressure
**Obstructive Sleep Apnea (Not using CPAP)
*Obesity
*Brain Fog Always
*Shortness of Breath
*Lump In Throat
* Every few months a random mouth and tongue become paralyzed for less than a minute when I eat then I get
Confused afterwards or Panic attack.

Here are the Medications I take everyday:

Clonazepam (Klonopin) .75 Mg
Diazepam (Valium) 5MG as or if needed
Aspirin 325MG

Here are TESTS performed in the last 7 years I will put a number next to it to indicate how many times I've had it done

* Head/Brain CT Scan   3-4 Times
* Brain MRI                    4-5 Times
* Neck/Throat MRI        2 Times
*Chest X-Ray              10+ Times
*EKG                           20+ Times
*Implanted Cardiac Monitor 4/01/2014(Still Implanted)
*EEG                           3-4 Times
*Basic Neurological Function Test            10+Times
*Echocardiogram Stress Test                   2 Times
*Echocardiogram                                     1 Time
*Stress Test                                              2 Times
*Transcranial Doppler Ultrasound  (testing for artery compression or insufficiency) 1 Time
*Neuropsych Testing  (TBI and cognitive function)          2 Times
*Blood Tests/Urinalysis   >CBC>CMP>CRP>Troponin>Metanephrines>Cortisol>Lipid Panel>Heavy Metal Compounds>Catecholamines>Thyroid Levels> and some others I can't remember.
*Pulmonary Lung Function Test (shortness of Breath)    1 Time
*Overnight Sleep Studies (In Lab)                  9 Times
*Cervical Trigger Point Injections (Marcaine/Lidocaine)      Done Monthly

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Erectile Dysfunction :: Arginine, Phenylalanine, Macca Supplements

After reading online about natural ED remedies and dopamine, nitric oxide and testosterone boosters, I bought: L-Arginine, DL-Phenylalanine, Macca and L-Carnitine by "Nature Essential" (spanish brand). I do not plan to rely on these supplements alone, I would surely take viagra or cialis in case of sex. I bought them to improve my erection quality, the sensation, libido and my energy.

I began taking the supplements yesterday and it is way too early to expect improvements. But the problem is that I feel some worsening!

I usually have morning erections, but not today. I tried to touch myself to see how it feels and there was a lack of sensation and I couldn't reach erection or orgasm.

Since I took 4 different supplements, can there be a "conflict" between them?

Or maybe the "culprit" for this lack of erection and sensation is just one of the supplements? Now I'm trying to isolate the culprit.

I'm not an expert, but since DL-Phenylalanine is (among other things) advertised for pain relief, maybe that's the problem?

Also, these supplements are advertised as giving more energy, motivation and as sort of anti-depressants, but I don't feel an improved mood. I feel kinda "numb". Like, not much interested in anything, just neutral. I can just sit all day not doing anything.

I'm thinking about putting aside phenylalanine and see what happens, but this is all experimenting, I feel like a guinea pig. I need a more informed opinion. Maybe the "culprit" is another supplement.

Note: I took DL-Phenylalanine on empty stomach (as it was specified on the box) before breakfast. The rest of the pills I took after eating. Not all pills at one swallow, but one by one. I take DL-Phenylalanine and L-Arginine once per day and Macca and L-Carnitine 3 per day, one with each meal.

I also want to buy Pycnogenol, but I cannot find it in the pharmacies near me. At least not in it's clean form, but only as a part of a multi-antioxidant. I don't know how much % of pycnogenol that product contains and is it worth it. The producer is AquaSource (UK, I think).

Background: I suffer from ED for years, so it's not because of my age (late 30s). I had problems even in my late teens and 20s when i had my first sex experiences.

I talked to some friends (doctors), I explained them that I have morning erections and I can make myself excited, so they thought that this is psychological (I always have some stress in life). But I have never checked myself properly is the cause for my ED physical or psychological. Or maybe a bit of both. I have morning erections (but not regularly) and I can achieve an erection when masturbating. The problem is how to keep it.

At some point in life I discovered viagra and it helped me (50 mg). Once I tried 100 mg, but I felt a bit bad, dizzy etc.. Anyway, it helped me. Later I discovered cialis (the max. dose of 20mg), which worked well with no problems. I prefer cialis, cause it has long effect, so if I'm on a date with a girl, I'm not in a hurry to get her to bed while the pill is working, as it is with viagra. I have never tried levitra.

But recently, I had sex on cialis with two different woman (not at the same time) and in both cases I couldn't feel sensation. Note that this was before I began taking any supplements. I bought the supplements to solve this problem.

It felt like their vaginas were "loose", "wide" and very lubricated, so I couldn't feel anything (except at the beginning). Due to the lack of sensation, I would become soft and I would slip out of them. Even a blowjob without a condom didn't make me very excited. In both cases cialis couldn't help. I have a problem maintaining an erection without constant stimulation. And it seems that I lost sensitivity.

Note that I had a good and constant sexual life only when I was in a long relationship, but after we broke up, I got sex only occasionally (like one-night stands here and there). Some people say that you can develop a "resistance" to viagra or cialis. I don't think that my body developed such a "resistance", cause I wasn't talking these medications so often. There were no opportunities for sex so often.

I've read about porn induced ed (PIED), so I stopped watching porn half a year ago. And even mild erotica, women in bikinis and such things. I don't know if the PIED theory is proven, but better safe than sorry. I guess that I have to rewire myself to get excited by real women, not by pixels. In the past, sometimes I had to watch porn when having sex to get truly excited, to get that "dopamine rush" (as some websites are explaining it).

Now I do masturbate, but without porn, just fantasies about real women. When I see a hot woman on the street or in a shop, I'm trying to concentrate on her, but I can't get a spontaneous erection without touching myself. Of course, that would be inappropriate in public

I also can't get a spontaneous erection when just kissing with women like it once was. When we kiss or dance, they get close to me with their bodies to feel my erection, but nothing happens. It's so embarrassing. We must go to a private place first and then they must give me a b-job or a h-job, so I can become hard. Then, I must put on a condom very quickly and get inside them, cause I may loose the hardness.

I don't have a serious illness, I don't take any harsh medicines, I don't drink alcohol for a very long time (not even a beer), I do not take any drugs (even soft ones), but I just smoke normal cigarettes with coffee. I try to eat well, I avoid fast food and I always have soups, vegetable salads, fruits etc. Also I'm walking in nature on fresh air. Note that I'm not a vegetarian and I've read that phenylalanine should not be taken with proteins, I don't know if there's a link here.

During a certain period I tried to give up smoking, to work out (fitness), to improve my diet, avoid fried stuff etc. but it didn't have a significant impact on my sex life. Actually, in the past, when I would have a glass or two of red wine and some cigarettes, I felt more relaxed and sex seemed to be a bit better. There're people around me who go to clubs until early in the morning, they drink a lot, they take recreational drugs, they live unhealthy lives, but they have good sex. I don't get it.

I was also thinking about trying out that Muse / alprostadil urethral suppository, but can't find it in shops near me, i'm embarrassed to order it and finally, if sex happens, when will i have a time to put it into me (like saying to the partner: excuse me, i'm going to the bathroom and then putting it in and waiting for the effect). it's seems to me that it is impractical, I don't know.

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Atrial Fibrillation / Flutter :: Taurine Works Wonders For Me

I have had a heart condition for 13 years now known as 1st and 2nd degree heart block. I have now started to suffer from Atrial Flutter and/or Atrial Fibrillation. A few months ago i bought some Taurine as i read it helps with the electrical functions of the heart. I have discovered that i can stop the flutter/fib in a matter of 10 mins by taking 3000mg of taurine. It has successfully stopped it on each occasion. Maybe try a lesser amount 1st then work up to the dose that works for you ? Please let me know if this has been of any help to you. It certainly has made the world of difference to me !

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Depression :: Choline & Inositol, Theanine Tablets, Omega3 Fish Oil, 5-HTP, Magnesium, Taurine,

I'm just wondering could someone provide me with specific information on these products.  I was reading about them online and found that they help with the problems i suffer with by helping re- balance the brain chemistry. But i couldn't find if they are safe to take all together, which i plan on doing maybe not at once but throughout the day. Some people online said they done it and it works. But I'd rather get expert advice or get info from people that know their stuff.

I suffer from really low moods, low confidence, self esteem issues, depression, high levels of stress whereby i feel "wired" which results in my sense's i.e hearing, sight etc.. being really sensitive and acute( not a very nice feeling to experience) , my thought process also goes 90 like my brain wont switch off, when I'm down or stressed, also i have social and a general anxiety disorder.

some days I've no energy to do anything let alone get out of bed. recently for the past month I've only been sleeping 4 hours or less a day.

Even though i feel wrecked throughout the day and i try to take a nap. I cant go back to sleep untill 10 or 11 that night and then wake up at 4.

I plan on fixing this naturally instead of anti-depressants, sleeping tablets, etc... which I've tried before, which i don't like.

Therefore I plan on taking:

Omega 3 Fish Oil

5-HTP -50mg

Magnesium - 250mg, then 100mg later in the day to keep the tiredness, low energy away

Taurine - 500mg

Choline & Inositol - 500mg

Theanine - 200mg

(i.e. measurements are one tablet each)

Just wondering should i cut some out? only take half a tablet for some? what time should i take them? anyone try this combination before?

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Sexual Dysfunction :: L-ARGININE Or Viagra

I have consulted two urologist one gave L - ARGININE and another viagra i have weak erection which one to take any on tried L - ARGININE with success on erection.

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L-arginine Helps Prinzmetal Angina?

I have Prinzmetal angina.  My first attack was when I was 44 but not diagnosed until I was 51.  I just recently found out i have eNOS T786C mutation which most likely is causing the vasospasm.  I'm curious if anyone else has been diagnosed with this mutation.  A doctor that is doing research on Prinzmetal patients recommends taking L-arginine.  Anyone else take this supplement?  If so has it helped?  I have never had an EKG during an attack and was wondering if ST segment elevation is ALWAYS present on an EKG during spasm?

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Erectile Dysfunction :: Pycnogenol And L-arginine - How Long?

I've been doing lots of research and I've found out multiple studies that suggest that this is a powerful combo for ed.

I found a study where patients took 100 mg of Pycnogenol and 1.7g of Arginine a day for 3 months and the results were of 92% success.

My question would be; taking this combo everyday, how do I know when to stop?

This study was based on 3 months, but is this something that I'll always have to take..?

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Heart :: PVCs In A Row?

I've had undiagnosed PVCs for years now. The reason why I say undiagnosed is because the Holter Monitor could not capture any events when I wore it. Normal eco and normal stress-test. GP assumed they were just PVCs and benign.

Today I had incident of a run of a few of them in a row. I had the typical fluttering/thumping in my chest but decided to take my pulse at the time and it felt like a soft beat followed immediately by a strong beat, a pause, then a soft beat followed immediate by a strong beat, then a pause.

I read that 3-4 PVCs in a row are considered V-Tach and that in healthy hearts this is usually nothing to be concerned with. I am curious though because I had the strong beat immediately after the soft-beat if this could be considered V-tac or if this would just be considered PVC, Normal Beat, PVC, Normal Beat.

I have good tolerance to exercise and no other symptoms. Was not dizzy, although did freak out a bit and thought to myself "Am I about to slip into Cardiac Arrest".

My two questions are

1) Do you think this is V-tach?

2) Should sudden cardiac death be a concern? Is it worth continuing to investigate and exploring something such as ablation and trying another holter to try and catch up?

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Heart :: Having PVCs For 10 Years

im 27 and have been having pvc's for 10 years. when they first started I ended up in ER to be told it was stress. so I learned to cope with them. now fast forward 10 years and they are getting worse. I always remember feeling them when I was at rest. now when I move about they start up. I was in town yesterday with my 2 year old and concentrated on them so much I thought I was going to faint. if I only walk up the stairs I can feel them. obviously I then concentrate on them and feel them even more. My doc did an ECG back in june and that was normal also bloods were normal. other than that no other tests have been done. when I complained about them again the doc gave me anti-anxiety medication but I don't feel anxious so i'm not taking them. I feel i'm fighting a loosing battle and i'm terrified there is something wrong with my heart and no one is taking me seriously. I look forward to your replies and getting to know you all

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Heart Rhythm :: 19% PVCs

I had PVCs for about ten years before my mechanical aortic valve replacement in 1985 at 41 years of age. My cardiologist told me that the PVCs would probably get worse after surgery, because many times the insertion of a foreign object (i.e., my mechanical valve) fouls up the heart's electrical system even more. To the contrary, my PVCs completely went away after surgery!

In 2002, I moved to a new location, and my new cardiologist started me out with an ECG. He detected light, occasional PVCs, of which I could feel no effect. I moved again in 2011, and had a 24 hour Holter monitor done in April, 2012. All my cardiologist told me was that my PVC rate was 9.7% of total beats, but all asymptomatic, so not to worry. Again, I only occasionally noticed a PVC.

I went to my primary care physician for my regular four month checkup in mid-November 2015, and my pulse rate while sitting in a chair kept fluctuating between 35-40 (using the finger monitor for pulse and blood oxygenation). I made an appointment with my cardiologist for 10 days hence. The finger monitor again showed a pulse rate of 33-38 sitting (but 98% blood oxygenation), but when laying on the examining table with ECG leads strapped to me, my pulse read at 73. The ECG was abnormal, and I was ordered for another Holter monitor.

This one came back as abnormal with 19% multifocal PVCs, with episodes of ventricular couplets, ventricular bigeminy as well as ventricular trigeminy. Yet, the report stated that all episodes were asymptomatic (which I find hard to believe, since last August of 2015 my yearly echocardiogram indicated that my ejection fraction had decreased over the last few years from 62% to 45%).

At any rate, my cardiologist prescribed one daily Diltiazem CD 120mg Caps. What seems strange to me is that Diltiazem is for angina and high blood pressure, but is only an OFF LABEL use for arrhythmias. Hence, I have noticed no change in my PVCs (perhaps even a little worse for these first 25 days on Diltiazem, and especially heavy PVCs when I first try to go to sleep at night), nor has my blood pressure been lowered.

I am considering making an appointment with a different cardiologist to have him do a new ECG, go over my Holter monitor report, and consider a drug specifically for arrhythmias. Any other suggestions, or should a 72 year-old man like myself just let nature take it's course?

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Heart Rhythm :: Much Better With The PVCs

the last couple of days have been much better with the PVCs. I have done nothing differently, just able to relax more because they are much less frequent and bothersome and with the absence of these PVCs, there is less anxiety. it is nice to not be bothered so much by these things, at least for awhile.

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Heart Rhythm :: Went To ER For PVCs, Put On IV. Now They Are Gone?

What would this mean? I didn't get one PVC for 4 to 5 hours after the hospital last night. They did blood work and it was good and even chest X-ray and EKG. Saw the PVCs on EKG but the chest X-ray they said they noticed my bronchial tube was enlarged so they gave me antibiotics. What the heck is going on?

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Erectile Dysfunction, Finasteride, Lack Of Libido, Herbal Remedies, L-arginine

After medical review of this for the past 5 years.

---- To rule out cardiovascular disease, for ED is known to be a precursor.

---- Tests showing normal testosterone levels

After my husband's decline in interest intimately for three years preceding that five years.

After venomous denial regarding that the ED was the result of

---- Aging issues, medication (finasteride & HBP meds)

And much emotional hardship, as my husband wanted to truly believe his libido loss was due to one or all of the following:

---- Falling out of love

---- Being in a monogamous relationship

---- Something which his spouse did or didn't do, that he could not quite put his finger on.

Currently, spouse is considering going off finasteride (as a dr suggested) and trying natural remedies for enlarged prostate which includes:

---- Eventually stopping Finasteride (He has to be the one to stop)

---- Taking the following supplements:

Saw Palmetto Extract, Pygeum Extract, Nettles, Pumpkin Seed, Lycopene, zinc

I've just started him on zinc, Pumpkin seed & Lycopene, and will add the Saw Palmetto, Pygeum & Nettle combo soon.

I also plan to put him on L-Arginine which is suppose to assist with erections.

I have scanned the internet and do not see interaction of any of the above sups with that medication, and am tempted to put him on those for a month prior to him consenting to wean off of the Finasteride.

Does this seem a wise course of action, and have any of you gentlemen been on that medication while taking such herbal sups & vites?

Furthermore, have any of you run into other combinations that helped?

My spouse gives up easily, and I want this trial that he has consented to, to have the greatest chance of success possible.

What opened the door to this consenting to try was an 8 year support and sensual support without any demand or expectation from him. I didn't want to shut the door completely on intimacy, so despite insults and hostility, I stayed sensual, supportive and calm.... as I watched out for his physical and emotional health. I Provided massage, tantric touch which included prostate massage, encouragement and the occasional reminder that his erection could still work (when he let me to provide that). **** Ladies, if you can't get his ok, the massage will make him less guarded and then you may have access to provide that sexual release and confirmation he can still orgasm... Massage is great like that.

It's been a very long 8 years. Maybe other people have clearer vision at this point than myself, for I am in an emotional healing recover myself at this point as I continue to offer him support.

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Rhythm :: PACs In A Healthy Heart

This has been going on for about 2 years now, I was 26 then, now 28 (male) I went to the cardio when it started and nothing was ever picked up on the ekg so i had a stress (ekg) test and a echocardiogram, cardiac said I had a strong healthy heart with no blockages but did have a small murmur caused by a very mild mitral valve leak but it was nothing at all to worry about and that I needed to relax and exercise... fast forward another year and I start having a lot of pacs, or what feels like a lot, like 20 a day that I feel... so it gets my anxiety going and I go back to the cardio, still nothing picked up on the ekg, so for my peace of mind he's says we'll do another echocardiogram just to make sure the valve leak wasn't getting worse. Everything come back good on that and he said no need for another echo for 3-5 years... so he give me a 10 day event monitor where we finally figured out that I'm having pacs, he says they are harmless and no need to worry about them. My resting heart rate avgs between 50-60 which he said was good but with it being low it could be allowing the extra beats to fire off occasionally. I had blood work like 3 different times and everything come back good. So to this day I still have no idea what's causing the pacs, the only thing i can relate it to is it seems to happen more after eating so i got back on acid reflux meds when that spell started and it seemed to help, now I may go a week or longer without a single pac but then I might 2-3 a day for a few days and then they go away again as suddenly as they came... it really makes me think something I'm eating is triggering them. The reason I'm here today is because the devil makes sure to throw everything in front of me that will get me to worrying, latest example being the mma guy dying from heart trouble... so I go straight back to reading about my pacs and start reading stuff where they may cause afib, so now I'm literally a wreck scared I'm going to end up with afib. They say in a normal heart pacs are completely harmless but I worry that mines not normal bcuz of the valve leak, he said I didn't have mitral prolapse just that the valve wasn't closing as tight so it was slightly leaky but of no concern. Someone please give me some reassurance.

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Heart Disease :: PACs - Small Flutters Again

I have pacs and they have been gone for a while, but yesterday they started up as small flutters very tiny.   and lots air when i have them i burp a lot. went all day today i can put my hand over my heart and feel it pause a beat/skip   is this my reg pacs or do ya think i should be seen, i have no other problems with this, except so stress lol, i feel them in my throat , not really in my chest unless i put my head on my heart.

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Heart Rhythm :: Tips To Reduce PACs?

I've been experiencing PACs for the last 5 months, they seem to happen a lot when I am standing up, bending down or when I'm concentrating on something.

Does anyone have any tips or can recommend a supplement that helps reduce them? They seem to happen everyday and are driving me insane. They sometimes can make me feel dizzy and lightheaded.

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