Elantra XD (2001-06) :: Engine Bogs Down Randomly


Jun 16, 2016

My GF owns a 2001 Elantra 2.0l automatic.

We've had the problem with it not taking fuel like it should. It clicks off after a quarter gallon at a time - so it takes forever to fill up. I've cleaned some of the carbon pellets from the lines going to the charcoal canister but, I think there is a clog in the vent lines going to it. Haven't got around to trying to dislodge them with pressurized air -yet. Anyways, I don't know if that has anything to do with this but, I just wanted to bring that up.

What the problem is is that she was going 45-60mph down the road and she said the engine seemed to suddenly lose power and she was unable to go over 20mph. She had to pull over to let the cars behind her pass. She sat there for a minute or so (never turning off the engine) and then it seemed to gain power back and she made it home (about 2miles from where that happend). She said it happend again when she put it into reverse to park at the house.

I got in the car after it sat (off) for a few minutes and took it down the road but, couldn't replicate the issue. It ran fine for me -of course. She has told me she had a similar issue about a year ago but, nothing came up of it so I just shrugged it off. What should I be looking for? I checked all fluids and checked the intake hosing for obstructions and found none. The tank was on E but, the light wasn't on. She thought maybe she was running out of fuel.

I had her run to the parts store to get some SeaFoam and trans fluid (slight axle seal leak). She put half of the bottle in and filled it up. Didn't have any issue after that and made it to work this morning with no problems.

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