Golf/GTI VI :: Fluttering Noise At Boost Between 3500 And 5000 RPM?


Jul 23, 2011

I have a 2011 GTI, with an apr chip and apr intake stage 1. Car is brand new 4000 miles

When hitting boost in 3rd-6th gear i hear a fluttering sound between 3500rpm and 5000rpm after 5000rpm the sound either dissipates or is drowned out by the motor.

I've done a lot of research around this sound and i havent been able to find a certain answer, it could be compression surge (i wouldn't see why), a leaky DV ( also cant see why because the 2011 has the new revision D piston actuated DV), A fluttering wastegate.

Sage 1 apr chip and stage 1 apr intake...

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