Golf IV / Jetta IV :: Engine Fire Up Immediately For A Fraction Of Second When Cranking


Oct 13, 2015

I have Golf MK4 variant 1.6 77kw BCB 2005y

When i crank engine i hear it fire immediately for a fraction of a second, then it carries cranking empty few turns and then fires again.

Happens only on a first start after standing still few hours.

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