Lexus GX 2010+ :: 2014 - Nasty Rattling Near Idle / When Cold


Jan 31, 2015

So this is the second winter I've had my GX (a 2014 purchased in Nov. 2013).

With radio and other accessories turned off, there is a rattling/grating sound that is quite pronounced at/near idle, especially when cold. Sounds like a rapid PRAPP-PRAPP-PRAPP. This occurs when the vehicle is in Drive, but stopped. Occurs most often at within the first 5 minutes of operation....i.e. leaving the house or office, driving to the end of the street, hearing it at a stoplight or stopsign.

I've posted videos/recordings of it previously, which I have also shown to the dealer. The dealer said they could sort of reproduce, but could not diagnose it. I have tried to crane myself outside of the GX to listen to it, but from outside nothing seems to be amiss.

At first I was worried that it was engine knock/the car eating itself, but if that noise was representative of that, I think the car would be blowing smoke or dead by now. I have not noticed smoke, adverse effect on fuel economy or the noise at speed/under load, as you would expect if the engine were truly knocking. So I'm thinking it may be a fan, some type of underhood accessory, etc. that is the culprit. Sounds almost like a plastic component (fan, pulley, etc.) could be off kilter?? Something that more or less goes away after the engine has fully warmed up and the car has been driven for 10 mins or so.

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I finally made a recording (attached), I would suggest listening to it with headphones if possible. The noise I'm referring to is featured between the 0:28 and 1:00 marks. You can hear it again from about 1:10 to 1:25.

Just to recap:

2014 GX Premium pkg.
4400 miles
93 Octane always

The sequence of events is such:

1- Car is parked overnight in garage, air temperature is 60 degrees or less
2- Start car, pull out of garage
3- Put car in D
4- Drive to stop sign at end of street
5- The transmission downshifts and engine revs slightly as the car comes to a stop
6- After sitting at the stop for a few seconds, foot on brake, engine at idle, it starts to make that thumping/clunk noise
7- Noise stops once I start moving again, and does not come back once the engine is warmed up

Note: This happens whenever the temperature is 60 degrees or below and the engine is cold/car has been sitting overnight. All accessory systems were shut off for this recording/demonstration (no A/C or heat running, no radio or other accessories on).

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