Passat (B5) :: Engine Temperature Gauge Reading 190 Normally And Then Suddenly Drop To Almost 0


Jun 9, 2010

I have a 2003 Passat and the engine temperature gauge will read 190 normally and then suddenly drop to almost zero, stay there for a while then head back up.

I purchased a temp sensor to replace the old but for the life of me I can seem to locate it. I know it's in the back or rear of the engine somewhere.

BTW, the car has the 1.8 engine.

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