Weaning Off Xanax - Getting Clean/sober


May 25, 2014

March 25th I made the decision to leave the entertainment industry and get sober. Since then I have slipped up and drank only 3 times and have no desire to sip a drink again... It always makes me feel worse/horribly depressed. It just brings me to a dark place. I have been taking Xanax for the past 7 years because it helped me deal with my job... Being in the spotlight... Having no privacy... And it also helped me deal with a very mentally abusive Husband who also happened to be an actor and active cocaine addict. I am proud to say that I filed for divorce and finally got away from a very toxic lifestyle that I felt was leading to my death.

I am weening off Xanax... I am down to 3 mg a day (I was taking up to 10 mg a day... Maybe more at my worst point) and I am under a doctor's supervision.

All of this is just so hard. My whole life is changing and I know it is changing for the better in regards to my health but this is so hard. Divorce, massive job/.lifestyle change, moving out of la, searching for a job and going through all my savings fast. It is SO SO hard not to get caught up in fear right now. I have been SUPER depressed and overwhelmed and I have been letting my depression and anxiety get the best of me lately. I'm feeling really defeated lately and super overwhelmed.

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I will detail my experiences with CIC in following posts -- but to summarize, once mastered, it’s a painless five minute procedure that allows you to empty your bladder completely any time you want. With CIC, I therefore have no retention issues, no urgency, and in most cases sleep 6-8 hours through the night without having to get up and go to the bathroom. No UTI’s in over 18 months. And because my bladder has been partially rehabilitated, I can urinate normally about 50% of the time without using the Crede maneuver.  My IPSS Score (International Prostate Symptom Score) would be Zero (the best), albeit with a little mechanical assist.

As of now, nothing that I have read about the various current procedures has tempted me to have an operation. That could, or could not change, in the future, but the nice thing about CIC is that you can stop it any time you want with no repercussions. The caveat is that CIC should be done under the supervision of a doctor who will monitor your BPH as required. Similar to seeing a doctor on a regular basis during a Watch n’ Wait BPH strategy.

I know many of you here have already had operations like Turp, and in most cases people seem pleased with the outcomes. CIC certainly isn’t’ for everyone, and I can understand why someone does not want to carry around a urinary “tool box” with them. On the other hand, with practice, it’s not the traumatic and scary procedure some think. I can honestly say right now that for me it’s about as traumatic as brushing my teeth.

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8 tablets a day

2 at 7am

2 at 1pm

2 at 6pm

2 at 8pm

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week 2

2 at 7am

2 at 1pm

2 at 6pm

1 at 10pm

week 3

2 at 7am

2 at 1pm

1 at 6pm

1 at 10pm

week 4

2 at 7am

1 at 1pm

1 at 6pm

1 at 10pm

week 5

1 at 7am

1 at 1pm

1 at 6pm

1 at 10pm

week 6

1 at 7am

1 at 1pm

1 at 8pm

week 7

1 at 7am

1 at 8pm

week 8

1 at 7am

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