Accent LC (2000-05) :: Hard Starting / Will Not Stay Running When Engine Is Cold


Sep 10, 2014

My daughter has a 2000 accent , SOHC 12V, I think it's the 1.5L.. It will not stay running when the engine is cold...........after it warms up, or if it sits in the hot sun it's fine................it has 166K .

She said she took it to an auto parts store and had the engine code read, p1123 came up.....

Code P1123 : Long term fuel trim, at idle - mixture too rich..

What do you think this is caused by................ the inlet air temp sensor? I was told someone just replaced the air max flow sensor, that don't sound correct to me, but that's what they called it....probably the MAF sensor....

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