Golf IV / Jetta IV :: 1999 - Knocking Sound At Idle


Nov 25, 2014

1999.5 gls vr6 ... 113k on the clock

Timing chain hasn't been changed yet .. Has new spark plugs & wires ..

Water pump was replaced & pulleys look fine ..

No CEL .. Yes there's oil in it.

I get a knocking sound at idle and it has absolutely no rhyme or rhythm which makes me think it's not a valve or rod(wouldn't that make a constant noise?). The sound comes from the passenger side floor board. Only happens at idle, and if you rev the engine, it will go away. Even if you don't rev the engine some times it goes away then comes back. Sometimes I hear it when i pull up to a red light real loud & most of the time the engine purrs like a kitten. I even sat in the car and told my dad when it was making the knocking/ticking noise and he went all over the top and bottom end with a mechanical stethoscope & heard absolutely nothing. Am I missing something obvious?

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