Phaeton :: Occasional Vibration When Coasting With Throttle Backed Off


Jul 31, 2013

I have an odd sort of occasional vibration in my 2004 W12. I've read the sticky FAQ info posts concerning vibration, but I can't find a report with the same symptoms. Here are the observations:

1. When present, the vibration comes in very mildly at 50 MPH and peaks at 65 MPH, then dropping to barely discernible at 85 MPH.

2. The car shudders under the vibration, at worst resonating interior items and can be felt through the seat.

3. The vibration ceases IMMEDIATELY at any speed when coasting with the throttle backed off.

4. Curiously, the vibration seems to be much more noticeable after about an hour's drive. Before that, not so much.

5. VAG-COM does not indicate any misfires... I was sure I have a bad coil/plug... but the controller shows no such evidence. The throttle-on shake feels like a miss.

6. Brakes on/off makes no difference.

7. Road surface does not make any difference.

8. Near new (2K miles) Yokohama YK 580 all around, stock rims. If it's balance, I doubt it would decrease at higher speed (being sub-critical). Likewise for belt bubbles or other tire flaws.

Some posts have pointed to worn suspension link bushings causing mechanical resonance at certain speed ranges, perhaps aggravated by engine torque on the mounts, so I'm leaning in that direction (bushing replacements) if nothing else comes to light.

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1. It does not happen below ~70 mph.

2. It doesn't appear to be a wheel bearing - no noticeable change in tone or "amplitude" while turning at speed.

3. I use cruise control all the time on the highway, and it is more noticeable going downhill (increases in vibration), when the engine is obviously off-throttle.

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