Stall - Jetta - Rpm :: VW Stalls While Driving And Won't Start For Up To 30 Minutes Afterwards


Sep 23, 2014

I'm really bad with cars but I'll try to be as specific as possible.

Car: 2002 VW Jetta

Basically the car will just stall out of nowhere while driving (not stopped at a light), I would say usually about 10-20 minutes after I started driving. After this, when I try to start it, it makes that noise like it is trying to start but the actual ignition doesn't happen. it usually takes me about 15 minutes to start it up again.

In addition to this, when driving, the RPM seems to randomly drop off often, and the car also jerks frequently, especially when I press on the pedal quickly.

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