Prius (2004-09) :: Front Discs Rubbing Sound Like Pads Worn Down?


Feb 12, 2011

This started recently and suddenly during our recent snow. It sounds like the pads have worn down. Only happens at very low speed, not immediately at the point where the disc brakes cut in (>7mph?). Apart from the sound, the braking action feels normal and it stops fine.

The pads were only replaced a few months ago. Done 106,000 miles now, and no more than 2,000 since pads replaced.

I had thought it might be some grit caught between disc and pads but it would have cleared by now and there are now obvious signs on the disc of anything.

What would I be best to remove the wheels and take a closer look. Also, is there a wear sensor on the pads?

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